樣件，試生產(chǎn)，生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃，它們?nèi)咧g應(yīng)該有哪些方面的區(qū)別？
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各位好，今天在作體系內(nèi)審時(shí)，發(fā)現(xiàn)公司的樣件控制計(jì)劃，試生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃，生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃，它們?nèi)咧g沒有任何的區(qū)別，我覺得這樣是不對的，但是這三者之間應(yīng)有的區(qū)別是什么?各自的輸入又有哪些?如何根據(jù)輸入形成不同階段的控制計(jì)劃?。
回答1
wxfjh(威望:10) (江蘇 無錫) 其它行業(yè) 質(zhì)量主管
贊同來自:kyl、sh7109、從0到N、blue_770、day day up_200
樣件控制計(jì)劃，試生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃，生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃，
Prototype control plan: 在產(chǎn)品設(shè)計(jì)和驗(yàn)證階段，關(guān)注的是產(chǎn)品的尺寸和性能，輸入應(yīng)該是DFMEA和特殊特性清單，技術(shù)規(guī)格書，圖紙;
Pre-production control plan: 在過程設(shè)計(jì)和驗(yàn)證階段，關(guān)注的是產(chǎn)品和過程的特殊特性，輸入的是PFMEA，特殊特性清單和技術(shù)規(guī)格書，圖紙;
Series-production control plan: 在量產(chǎn)階段，是關(guān)注的是產(chǎn)品和過程的特殊特性，輸入的是PFMEA，特殊特性清單和技術(shù)規(guī)格書，圖紙;
Pre-production control plan&Series-production control plan的區(qū)別在于：Pre-production control plan的抽樣的頻度和檢測的項(xiàng)目應(yīng)該相對來說多一點(diǎn)，量產(chǎn)成熟穩(wěn)定后，可適當(dāng)降低檢測頻度和檢驗(yàn)項(xiàng)目。
回答2
elvaman(威望:2) (湖北 武漢) 汽車制造相關(guān) 工程師
贊同來自:餓勞苦空、Stormwind、利維坦、入門級的科比
2.5 Prototype Build - Control Plan
Prototype control plans are a description of the dimensional measurements and material and functional tests that will occur during prototype build. The organization’s product quality planning team should ensure that a prototype control plan is prepared. Control plan methodology is described in Chapter 6. A Control Plan Checklist is provided in both Section 6 and Appendix A-8 to assist in the preparation of the prototype control plan.
The manufacture of prototype parts provides an excellent opportunity for the team and the customer to evaluate how well the product or service meets the Voice of the Customer objectives. It is the organization’s product quality planning team's responsibility to review prototypes for the following:
• Assure that the product or service meets specification and report data as required.
• Ensure that particular attention has been given to special product and process characteristics.
• Use data and experience to establish preliminary process parameters and packaging requirements.
•Communicate any concerns, deviations, and/or cost impact to the customer.
3.7 Pre-Launch Control Plan
Pre-launch control plans are a description of the dimensional measurements
and material and functional tests that will occur after prototype and before
full production. The pre-launch control plan should include additional
product/process controls to be implemented until the production process is
validated. The purpose of the pre-launch control plan is to contain potential
non-conformities during or prior to initial production runs. Examples of
enhancements in the pre-launch control plan are:
• More frequent inspection
• More in-process and final check points
• Robust statistical evaluations
• Enhanced audits
• Identification of error-proofing devices
4.7 Production Control Plan
The production control plan is a written description of the systems for controlling production parts and processes. The production control plan is a living document and should be updated to reflect the addition or deletion of controls based on experience gained by producing parts. (Approval of the authorized customer representative may be required.) The production control plan is a logical extension of the pre-launch control plan. Mass production provides the organization the opportunity to evaluate output, review the control plan and make appropriate changes. Chapter 6 and Appendix A-8 present Control Plan Methodology and a checklist to verify completeness.
回答3
不放棄的探路者(威望:5) (江蘇 蘇州) 汽車制造相關(guān) 經(jīng)理-質(zhì)量管理+體系
一般來說，試產(chǎn)時(shí)的其他尺寸不需要監(jiān)測，除非技術(shù)部門要求的，因?yàn)樘厥馓匦岳锟赡芤呀?jīng)包括了很多尺寸了
量產(chǎn)時(shí)的抽樣頻率大小的確是依據(jù)試產(chǎn)的CPK情況來確定AQL的
回答4
niuzi0116(威望:2) (重慶 渝北區(qū)) 汽車制造相關(guān) 工程師-做質(zhì)量，怕個(gè)鏟鏟。。
先同意3樓和7樓的。。。。另外，樣件控制計(jì)劃，往往可能是手工件：即可能沒有正式的工裝、加工方法和檢測手段等，而這些在試生產(chǎn)和生產(chǎn)中就可能有勒。控制方法自然就如樓上2位所言，與樣件不一樣。
回答5
H304187120(威望:0) (四川 成都) 汽車制造相關(guān) 主管
個(gè)人理解：第一是樣件與試生產(chǎn)件在過程控制中的檢驗(yàn)容量、頻率與批量生產(chǎn)的控制是有區(qū)別的，比如樣件的檢驗(yàn)容量一般是100%，而批量生產(chǎn)的產(chǎn)品只做首檢、巡檢、末檢;
第二是樣件與批量產(chǎn)品所使用的加工設(shè)備、工裝可能會(huì)有變化，當(dāng)然，這個(gè)不是絕對的，要根據(jù)貴公司的實(shí)際
樣件的輸入應(yīng)是DFMEA分析的結(jié)果、特殊特性清單等。生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃的輸出應(yīng)是現(xiàn)場的作業(yè)指導(dǎo)文件
回答6
lansehaimian(威望:26) (遼寧 大連) 汽車制造相關(guān) 工程師
看了一下APQP文件，如下描述：
樣件控制計(jì)劃：在樣件制造過程中，對尺寸測量和材料與性能試驗(yàn)的描述;
試生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃：在樣件試制之后，全面生產(chǎn)之前所進(jìn)行的尺寸測量和材料與性能試驗(yàn)的描述;
生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃：在大批量生產(chǎn)中，將提供產(chǎn)品/過程特性，過程控制，試驗(yàn)和測量系統(tǒng)的綜合文件。
回答7
DAI(威望:0)
看了大家的精彩的表述，作為初學(xué)者有些疑惑還請各位大師指教下：
1.APQP中時(shí)對樣件、試生產(chǎn)、生產(chǎn)的控制計(jì)劃做了書面描述，但這其中樣件和試生產(chǎn)只關(guān)注尺寸、材料和性能描述，其他有沒有需要注意的地方;
2.各階段最明顯的控制差異為：管制的項(xiàng)目、抽樣的容量和頻率，會(huì)有減少降低的趨勢，還有其他嗎?
3.管制的項(xiàng)目和客戶要求的項(xiàng)目是否必須一致?
回答8
rsy1981(威望:0) (福建 福州) 汽車制造相關(guān) 主管
補(bǔ)充一點(diǎn):量產(chǎn)的控制計(jì)劃需要與作業(yè)的指導(dǎo)書對應(yīng)!
知識產(chǎn)權(quán)受那種法律保護(hù)？
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企業(yè)安全管理主體責(zé)任落實(shí)的措施有哪些？
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回答1
wxfjh(威望:10) (江蘇 無錫) 其它行業(yè) 質(zhì)量主管
贊同來自:kyl、sh7109、從0到N、blue_770、day day up_200
樣件控制計(jì)劃，試生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃，生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃，
Prototype control plan: 在產(chǎn)品設(shè)計(jì)和驗(yàn)證階段，關(guān)注的是產(chǎn)品的尺寸和性能，輸入應(yīng)該是DFMEA和特殊特性清單，技術(shù)規(guī)格書，圖紙;
Pre-production control plan: 在過程設(shè)計(jì)和驗(yàn)證階段，關(guān)注的是產(chǎn)品和過程的特殊特性，輸入的是PFMEA，特殊特性清單和技術(shù)規(guī)格書，圖紙;
Series-production control plan: 在量產(chǎn)階段，是關(guān)注的是產(chǎn)品和過程的特殊特性，輸入的是PFMEA，特殊特性清單和技術(shù)規(guī)格書，圖紙;
Pre-production control plan&Series-production control plan的區(qū)別在于：Pre-production control plan的抽樣的頻度和檢測的項(xiàng)目應(yīng)該相對來說多一點(diǎn)，量產(chǎn)成熟穩(wěn)定后，可適當(dāng)降低檢測頻度和檢驗(yàn)項(xiàng)目。
回答2
elvaman(威望:2) (湖北 武漢) 汽車制造相關(guān) 工程師
贊同來自:餓勞苦空、Stormwind、利維坦、入門級的科比
2.5 Prototype Build - Control Plan
Prototype control plans are a description of the dimensional measurements and material and functional tests that will occur during prototype build. The organization’s product quality planning team should ensure that a prototype control plan is prepared. Control plan methodology is described in Chapter 6. A Control Plan Checklist is provided in both Section 6 and Appendix A-8 to assist in the preparation of the prototype control plan.
The manufacture of prototype parts provides an excellent opportunity for the team and the customer to evaluate how well the product or service meets the Voice of the Customer objectives. It is the organization’s product quality planning team's responsibility to review prototypes for the following:
• Assure that the product or service meets specification and report data as required.
• Ensure that particular attention has been given to special product and process characteristics.
• Use data and experience to establish preliminary process parameters and packaging requirements.
•Communicate any concerns, deviations, and/or cost impact to the customer.
3.7 Pre-Launch Control Plan
Pre-launch control plans are a description of the dimensional measurements
and material and functional tests that will occur after prototype and before
full production. The pre-launch control plan should include additional
product/process controls to be implemented until the production process is
validated. The purpose of the pre-launch control plan is to contain potential
non-conformities during or prior to initial production runs. Examples of
enhancements in the pre-launch control plan are:
• More frequent inspection
• More in-process and final check points
• Robust statistical evaluations
• Enhanced audits
• Identification of error-proofing devices
4.7 Production Control Plan
The production control plan is a written description of the systems for controlling production parts and processes. The production control plan is a living document and should be updated to reflect the addition or deletion of controls based on experience gained by producing parts. (Approval of the authorized customer representative may be required.) The production control plan is a logical extension of the pre-launch control plan. Mass production provides the organization the opportunity to evaluate output, review the control plan and make appropriate changes. Chapter 6 and Appendix A-8 present Control Plan Methodology and a checklist to verify completeness.
回答3
不放棄的探路者(威望:5) (江蘇 蘇州) 汽車制造相關(guān) 經(jīng)理-質(zhì)量管理+體系
一般來說，試產(chǎn)時(shí)的其他尺寸不需要監(jiān)測，除非技術(shù)部門要求的，因?yàn)樘厥馓匦岳锟赡芤呀?jīng)包括了很多尺寸了
量產(chǎn)時(shí)的抽樣頻率大小的確是依據(jù)試產(chǎn)的CPK情況來確定AQL的
回答4
niuzi0116(威望:2) (重慶 渝北區(qū)) 汽車制造相關(guān) 工程師-做質(zhì)量，怕個(gè)鏟鏟。。
先同意3樓和7樓的。。。。另外，樣件控制計(jì)劃，往往可能是手工件：即可能沒有正式的工裝、加工方法和檢測手段等，而這些在試生產(chǎn)和生產(chǎn)中就可能有勒。控制方法自然就如樓上2位所言，與樣件不一樣。
回答5
H304187120(威望:0) (四川 成都) 汽車制造相關(guān) 主管
個(gè)人理解：第一是樣件與試生產(chǎn)件在過程控制中的檢驗(yàn)容量、頻率與批量生產(chǎn)的控制是有區(qū)別的，比如樣件的檢驗(yàn)容量一般是100%，而批量生產(chǎn)的產(chǎn)品只做首檢、巡檢、末檢;
第二是樣件與批量產(chǎn)品所使用的加工設(shè)備、工裝可能會(huì)有變化，當(dāng)然，這個(gè)不是絕對的，要根據(jù)貴公司的實(shí)際
樣件的輸入應(yīng)是DFMEA分析的結(jié)果、特殊特性清單等。生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃的輸出應(yīng)是現(xiàn)場的作業(yè)指導(dǎo)文件
回答6
lansehaimian(威望:26) (遼寧 大連) 汽車制造相關(guān) 工程師
看了一下APQP文件，如下描述：
樣件控制計(jì)劃：在樣件制造過程中，對尺寸測量和材料與性能試驗(yàn)的描述;
試生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃：在樣件試制之后，全面生產(chǎn)之前所進(jìn)行的尺寸測量和材料與性能試驗(yàn)的描述;
生產(chǎn)控制計(jì)劃：在大批量生產(chǎn)中，將提供產(chǎn)品/過程特性，過程控制，試驗(yàn)和測量系統(tǒng)的綜合文件。
回答7
DAI(威望:0)
看了大家的精彩的表述，作為初學(xué)者有些疑惑還請各位大師指教下：
1.APQP中時(shí)對樣件、試生產(chǎn)、生產(chǎn)的控制計(jì)劃做了書面描述，但這其中樣件和試生產(chǎn)只關(guān)注尺寸、材料和性能描述，其他有沒有需要注意的地方;
2.各階段最明顯的控制差異為：管制的項(xiàng)目、抽樣的容量和頻率，會(huì)有減少降低的趨勢，還有其他嗎?
3.管制的項(xiàng)目和客戶要求的項(xiàng)目是否必須一致?
回答8
rsy1981(威望:0) (福建 福州) 汽車制造相關(guān) 主管
補(bǔ)充一點(diǎn):量產(chǎn)的控制計(jì)劃需要與作業(yè)的指導(dǎo)書對應(yīng)!
知識產(chǎn)權(quán)受那種法律保護(hù)？
ISO9000標(biāo)準(zhǔn)與ISO9000標(biāo)準(zhǔn)的特點(diǎn)和作用
企業(yè)安全管理主體責(zé)任落實(shí)的措施有哪些？
QC080000體系咨詢輔導(dǎo)流程和認(rèn)證需要資料
ISO2000IT信息服務(wù)管理體系怎么辦理多少錢流程
雙軟認(rèn)證咨詢報(bào)價(jià)
分享| 測定方法檢出限的具體步驟，此文最全！
品牌認(rèn)證信息系統(tǒng)查詢官網(wǎng),如何查詢品牌認(rèn)證有效性